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dozer wrote: 1 month ago
Fuck the Glazers wrote: 1 month ago A quick word on Chelsea. They've got a 46 man playing squad. Soon to be 47 when they sign Felix. 55 if you include those on loan.

They have to submit a 25 man playing squad when the windows closes :))

They're obviously amortising players which is how they're managing to sign so many. But their annual amortisation bill is now more than 260m - aka more than the total revenue of most clubs.

It's not sustainable. Chelsea are a loss making club (370m total loss in last 3 seasons). They're also shit. They desperately need CL money but they finished 6th so for the first time in over 10 years they finished outside of the top 4 - despite spending 1.4bn. Also these players will want new deals if they're good. And then there's the two ongoing investigations into their affairs under Abramovic which threaten relegation.

They need to sell a chunk of players for high fees. But a player can't retain or improve their value if they don't play. So you end up selling your best performing players which is why they're looking at ditching Conor Gallagher. Everybody knows they need to sell.
Cheeky bid for cold Palmer on deadline day to ease their woes?
A bid on that sort of player would probably need more than a last day consideration even if they are desperate and I think we'd want him warm anyway.
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FuB wrote: 1 month ago
dozer wrote: 1 month ago
Fuck the Glazers wrote: 1 month ago A quick word on Chelsea. They've got a 46 man playing squad. Soon to be 47 when they sign Felix. 55 if you include those on loan.

They have to submit a 25 man playing squad when the windows closes :))

They're obviously amortising players which is how they're managing to sign so many. But their annual amortisation bill is now more than 260m - aka more than the total revenue of most clubs.

It's not sustainable. Chelsea are a loss making club (370m total loss in last 3 seasons). They're also shit. They desperately need CL money but they finished 6th so for the first time in over 10 years they finished outside of the top 4 - despite spending 1.4bn. Also these players will want new deals if they're good. And then there's the two ongoing investigations into their affairs under Abramovic which threaten relegation.

They need to sell a chunk of players for high fees. But a player can't retain or improve their value if they don't play. So you end up selling your best performing players which is why they're looking at ditching Conor Gallagher. Everybody knows they need to sell.
Cheeky bid for cold Palmer on deadline day to ease their woes?
A bid on that sort of player would probably need more than a last day consideration even if they are desperate and I think we'd want him warm anyway.
Chelsea might have to sell at some point, so it's not a bad idea. Everyone will be in for him mind. Also Chelsea have just given him a new deal which will keep him at Chelsea til 2033. Madness
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Fuck the Glazers wrote: 1 month ago
FuB wrote: 1 month ago
dozer wrote: 1 month ago
Fuck the Glazers wrote: 1 month ago A quick word on Chelsea. They've got a 46 man playing squad. Soon to be 47 when they sign Felix. 55 if you include those on loan.

They have to submit a 25 man playing squad when the windows closes :))

They're obviously amortising players which is how they're managing to sign so many. But their annual amortisation bill is now more than 260m - aka more than the total revenue of most clubs.

It's not sustainable. Chelsea are a loss making club (370m total loss in last 3 seasons). They're also shit. They desperately need CL money but they finished 6th so for the first time in over 10 years they finished outside of the top 4 - despite spending 1.4bn. Also these players will want new deals if they're good. And then there's the two ongoing investigations into their affairs under Abramovic which threaten relegation.

They need to sell a chunk of players for high fees. But a player can't retain or improve their value if they don't play. So you end up selling your best performing players which is why they're looking at ditching Conor Gallagher. Everybody knows they need to sell.
Cheeky bid for cold Palmer on deadline day to ease their woes?
A bid on that sort of player would probably need more than a last day consideration even if they are desperate and I think we'd want him warm anyway.
Chelsea might have to sell at some point, so it's not a bad idea. Everyone will be in for him mind. Also Chelsea have just given him a new deal which will keep him at Chelsea til 2033. Madness
As a known fan of United, you'd hope that he'd want to come to us before anyone else
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Maresca: “I am not working with 42 players. I am working with 21 players”.

“The other 15-20 players are training apart. I don't see them. It's not a mess like it looks from outside. Absolutely not”.

“They can even have 20 years contract, it’s not my point. I don’t care”.

So they're paying big fees and big wages for 20 odd players the manager doesn't want or care about. So they're just going to rot in the reserves.

What a fucking basket case Chelsea are
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I thought Chelsea gave long contracts to players because they wanted to reduce the annualised transfer value for FFP (the loophole was plugged to a 5 year limit recently), but they're also giving out long contracts for academy players. I can't see why - this looks like an obvious blunder to me. Having said that Todd Boehly has proven to be cunning enough to exploit FFP loopholes I won't be too surprised if he's thought of something that no one else has figured out.

Perhaps Chelsea can account for sales differently i.e include the entire transfer fee for a player sold in the same year, somehow? I don't know.
If they can do this, then I can see why they're buying a lot of players for "reduced" annualised fees and selling them for "high" annualised fees.
Is this possible? I have no idea.
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dozer wrote: 1 month ago I thought Chelsea gave long contracts to players because they wanted to reduce the annualised transfer value for FFP (the loophole was plugged to a 5 year limit recently), but they're also giving out long contracts for academy players. I can't see why - this looks like an obvious blunder to me. Having said that Todd Boehly has proven to be cunning enough to exploit FFP loopholes I won't be too surprised if he's thought of something that no one else has figured out.

Perhaps Chelsea can account for sales differently i.e include the entire transfer fee for a player sold in the same year, somehow? I don't know.
If they can do this, then I can see why they're buying a lot of players for "reduced" annualised fees and selling them for "high" annualised fees.
Is this possible? I have no idea.
sounds borderline bent to me, but what do I know...?
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swampash wrote: 1 month ago
dozer wrote: 1 month ago I thought Chelsea gave long contracts to players because they wanted to reduce the annualised transfer value for FFP (the loophole was plugged to a 5 year limit recently), but they're also giving out long contracts for academy players. I can't see why - this looks like an obvious blunder to me. Having said that Todd Boehly has proven to be cunning enough to exploit FFP loopholes I won't be too surprised if he's thought of something that no one else has figured out.

Perhaps Chelsea can account for sales differently i.e include the entire transfer fee for a player sold in the same year, somehow? I don't know.
If they can do this, then I can see why they're buying a lot of players for "reduced" annualised fees and selling them for "high" annualised fees.
Is this possible? I have no idea.
sounds borderline bent to me, but what do I know...?
They avoided failing foul of PSR by selling a couple of hotels to themselves. Basically Chelsea owned two hotels, and they sold em from one part of the company to another. That meant CFCs losses were 90m not 166m.

I think the Prem's investigation may cover this. Masters said it's coming to a conclusion soon. The FA are also investigating, and it's believed the government might too in relation to Abramovic's suspected criminal activity.

Boehly & Eghbali reported Chelsea's "irregular" findings when they bought the club which sparked the investigations. I reckon it's to get a more lenient punishment as they've just spent 4bn on a club that is probably going to be playing in division 2 and facing financial meltdown. And cos the private equity group that are the real owners of Chelsea don't want anything to do with russian sanctions.
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It's all starting to go wrong at Chelsea. We need a Chelsea Watch thread, this is great.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ip-options
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Fuck the Glazers wrote: 3 weeks ago It's all starting to go wrong at Chelsea. We need a Chelsea Watch thread, this is great.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ip-options
It's going to be funny as fuck when Clearlake pull the plug and the house of cards comes tumbling down
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Felwin wrote: 3 weeks ago
Fuck the Glazers wrote: 3 weeks ago It's all starting to go wrong at Chelsea. We need a Chelsea Watch thread, this is great.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ip-options
It's going to be funny as fuck when Clearlake pull the plug and the house of cards comes tumbling down
:eatpopcorn:
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