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It got me thinking that AI is now embedded at my work. Lots of people use it now. Not decision making, but basic shit like 'make this cunty email sound nice' or 'summarise' this email.
Microsoft have embedded it in everything.
And tbh I don't mind using it for that shite. But when it comes to using it to make decisions on people (I work with people)... That's where it gets ethically dodge.
I'm also aware that using AI ultimately speeds up our work, so then management expect more from us. It's always been that way going back to mechanisation, industrial manufacture etc.
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First off. my commiserations for you having to work with people. It's the worst thing about work there is.Fuck the Glazers wrote: ↑1 month ago Fub mentioned this thread
It got me thinking that AI is now embedded at my work. Lots of people use it now. Not decision making, but basic shit like 'make this cunty email sound nice' or 'summarise' this email.
Microsoft have embedded it in everything.
And tbh I don't mind using it for that shite. But when it comes to using it to make decisions on people (I work with people)... That's where it gets ethically dodge.
I'm also aware that using AI ultimately speeds up our work, so then management expect more from us. It's always been that way going back to mechanisation, industrial manufacture etc.
It is sort of annoying the way MS is trying to stick AI everywhere it can. I don't think we can really stop it becoming ubiquitous but general quality of English and education has fallen off a cliff over the last 20 years and now we'll just have total fuckwits having AI help them look like they have more than a couple of braincells. Sure, that's lovely and empowering but i sort of liked being able to tell whether someone was as simple as Dorgu from an email or two.
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FuB wrote: ↑1 month agoFirst off. my commiserations for you having to work with people. It's the worst thing about work there is.Fuck the Glazers wrote: ↑1 month ago Fub mentioned this thread
It got me thinking that AI is now embedded at my work. Lots of people use it now. Not decision making, but basic shit like 'make this cunty email sound nice' or 'summarise' this email.
Microsoft have embedded it in everything.
And tbh I don't mind using it for that shite. But when it comes to using it to make decisions on people (I work with people)... That's where it gets ethically dodge.
I'm also aware that using AI ultimately speeds up our work, so then management expect more from us. It's always been that way going back to mechanisation, industrial manufacture etc.
It is sort of annoying the way MS is trying to stick AI everywhere it can. I don't think we can really stop it becoming ubiquitous but general quality of English and education has fallen off a cliff over the last 20 years and now we'll just have total fuckwits having AI help them look like they have more than a couple of braincells. Sure, that's lovely and empowering but i sort of liked being able to tell whether someone was as simple as Dorgu from an email or two.
Tbf you can often tell when someone has used AI to write an email cos it makes them sound happy and bubbly when everyone knows they're a miserable cunt
But yeah, AI is well embedded now. It's being used without many safeguards, certainly in my workplace.
So I guess I should explain what I meant in the other thread about the ChatGPT lad.
Basically he reminds me a lot of Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook fame, they both come across detached and bland. Summat about the mundane face of evil and all that. Maybe I've read too much stuff about the nazis down the years. Not saying these AI guys are nazis, but there's something about the power and how blase they are about the harm it can cause which creeps me out basically.
Anyway, I work in IT Infrastructure so it's been a big theme of the last few years, integrating all this IMO mostly useless shite. As you guys say, there are use cases for the LLMs out there and when you have an eye for it, you realise almost everyone is using it to write stuff for them. It's a double-edged sword though, because the amount of tries you have mixed with the amount of editing you have to do, makes it sometimes more work than just writing what you wanted to write yourself.
Agree with Fuß about the lack of basic office skills these days. I've trained younger folk who can barely use a keyboard and mouse, type slower than a granny and struggle to concentrate on one task for longer than 10 minutes. They aren't more stupid, it's not a dumbing down as some would have you believe, but I can easily foresee a computerless work environment within my working lifetime. Everyone does everything on a smartphone/tablet/foldable, dictates emails to their AI, gets another AI app to autofill spreadsheets, spend the rest of the time on video calls. It's all possible now, we older ones are just wedded to keyboard, mouse and a screen. Call centres and customer support could easily be replaced by AI within a few years, IMO the big thing stopping it is the will of customers to accept it... then again, there's a new way of doing business creeping in where you corner the market with a service and then deny the consumer any choice (see streaming platforms), so we're probably all fucked.
My biggest problem by far with AI - and ChatGPT is the worst for this - is the way they are ostensibly providing a cool thing for you to interface with, but are actually gathering an unbelievable amount of data in order to train even better models. I'm going deep on this I know, but we are essentially training our own masters. Teaching it how best it can manage, control and manipulate us. Even if there are "ethical" safeguards in place, we can't agree what they are and the tech lads are actively pushing for their own "safeguards" that are different from platform to platform, rather than an independent set of rules. Add to this general lack of truth in todays society and I worry about the information by kids will be getting in 5-10 years, even worse for the next generation who haven't even started school yet.
Basically he reminds me a lot of Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook fame, they both come across detached and bland. Summat about the mundane face of evil and all that. Maybe I've read too much stuff about the nazis down the years. Not saying these AI guys are nazis, but there's something about the power and how blase they are about the harm it can cause which creeps me out basically.
Anyway, I work in IT Infrastructure so it's been a big theme of the last few years, integrating all this IMO mostly useless shite. As you guys say, there are use cases for the LLMs out there and when you have an eye for it, you realise almost everyone is using it to write stuff for them. It's a double-edged sword though, because the amount of tries you have mixed with the amount of editing you have to do, makes it sometimes more work than just writing what you wanted to write yourself.
Agree with Fuß about the lack of basic office skills these days. I've trained younger folk who can barely use a keyboard and mouse, type slower than a granny and struggle to concentrate on one task for longer than 10 minutes. They aren't more stupid, it's not a dumbing down as some would have you believe, but I can easily foresee a computerless work environment within my working lifetime. Everyone does everything on a smartphone/tablet/foldable, dictates emails to their AI, gets another AI app to autofill spreadsheets, spend the rest of the time on video calls. It's all possible now, we older ones are just wedded to keyboard, mouse and a screen. Call centres and customer support could easily be replaced by AI within a few years, IMO the big thing stopping it is the will of customers to accept it... then again, there's a new way of doing business creeping in where you corner the market with a service and then deny the consumer any choice (see streaming platforms), so we're probably all fucked.
My biggest problem by far with AI - and ChatGPT is the worst for this - is the way they are ostensibly providing a cool thing for you to interface with, but are actually gathering an unbelievable amount of data in order to train even better models. I'm going deep on this I know, but we are essentially training our own masters. Teaching it how best it can manage, control and manipulate us. Even if there are "ethical" safeguards in place, we can't agree what they are and the tech lads are actively pushing for their own "safeguards" that are different from platform to platform, rather than an independent set of rules. Add to this general lack of truth in todays society and I worry about the information by kids will be getting in 5-10 years, even worse for the next generation who haven't even started school yet.
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Yeah, that's appalling. Everyone is looking to AI for a cadge, to lighten the load. I think if management didn't pile the shit on people's plates, and hired more staff (everywhere is understaffed, it saves money), people wouldn't look for a quick, easy get out.
Have to say about those fans as well, they're cunts. They're just violent hoolies. Based on today's laws, they've beaten enough people and attacked enough properties to justify a ban. The fact they're Jewish is irrelevant.
