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JoelfuckingGlazer wrote: 3 months ago Our xG for conceded goals under Carrick:

• City — 0.35
• Arsenal — 0.42
• Fulham — 0.39
• Spurs — 0.49
• West Ham — 1.11
• Everton — 0.28
• Crystal Palace — 0.35

We're much more organised. The key question when we consider Carrick as a permanent option, is whether he can move us into being a more expansive and effective side in games against lower block teams. His remit as interim is clearly to simplify things, improve the sense of spirit in the team and connection with fans and get what he can, out of what he has. A sound brief, and its working, but the permanent role demands more - we need to evolve beyond our current limits if we're going to compete for big titles. And in fairness the squad still needs work for us to be able to do that too.
I agree, defending well is probably the most important thing to get into the CL. We have the quality in attack to get a goal or two. Hopefully we manage to get a bit more slick than we have been the last few games. I think we miss De Ligt and Martinez passing from the back.
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bman2 wrote: 3 months ago ...
I think we miss De Ligt and Martinez passing from the back.
That's a given, especially next season. They're a bunch of crocks. You may not like that I said this but it's a fact.
They can't be relied upon and let's not forget, we still have Luke Shaw and Mazaroui on the books. If we keep them next season we will probably miss out on Europe because of an injury crisis in defense - they'll still stay. It'll be the manager who gets the boot.
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Sounds like it's between Carrick and Iraola. Honestly I could get behind either. I totally forgot it was Iraolo in charge of Bilbao when they came to OT and totally dicked us
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JoelfuckingGlazer wrote: 1 month ago Sounds like it's between Carrick and Iraola. Honestly I could get behind either. I totally forgot it was Iraolo in charge of Bilbao when they came to OT and totally dicked us
It's a difficult one, because we could easily regret not going for someone like Iraola when they are available.

I'm leaning towards sticking with Carrick. The players know what he expects and he give us a bit of stability.
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Iraola has been a manager for 7 years - 6 in a top league aka the Prem and La Liga. It doesn't seem like a lot. 43 is also young. Ineos must still want a young, up and coming manager. Okay Iraola is Prem proven unlike Amorim, and he's done a good job at Bournemouth taking them from 12th to 7th... but it's still a good job at Bouremouth. A good job at United is winning the league and the champions league, beating PSG, Bayern, City etc. There's quite a difference.

Also is he humble, is he flexible, does he have a plan b, and does he develop youth.

Part of me thinks it's working with Carrick so just keep him on. My only worry is the players might down tools like when Ole got a new deal.
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For me Iraola would be as big a gamble as Amorim and would require a big transition to reshape the squad. I think this is the last thing Utd need right now.

He demands high volume sprinting and recovery. Plays with a high defensive line to squeeze play meaning defenders require recovery pace which does not suit the current defensive roster. Maintaining this high pressing style across 60 games will lead to fatigue and is unlikely to be sustainable.

Carrick currently has the highest win rate of any Man Utd manager, and has massively over achieved the stated target and all with an entirely inherited squad with none of his own players. What is the argument against giving him one more season?
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Totally agree, Remi.

It could be that Carrick is the guy to set the foundation for another top manager to come in eventually. He could even be the right guy himself. I think he deserves another season at least.

Not entirely convinced we should change manager in the summer. The upheaval could undo the progress we have made.

Imagine where we would be in the table now if we hadn't dropped so many points under Amorim.
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Looks like the private equity bros at Chelsea want Iraola. Makes sense tbf.
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100% agree Remi. Great points about his style and it matches my gut feeling too. Maybe Iraola will go on to be a top manager (maybe Amorim still will) but what the last few years have proved is that United need a coach who can provide a sense of direction by getting results fairly quickly (meaning flexibility), good transfers and a long term vision.

All managers pre Amorim had shite transfers (whether their own doing or the board) and Amorim didn't care about results or flexibility. Carrick has provided the results and flexibility, the transfers seem sorted, the long term vision might have to wait until the squad can deliver it. If Iraola came in and couldn't get results, we'd go backwards and we can't afford to give him time a la Fergie back in the day
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BREAKING: According to @lauriewhitwell, Michael Carrick is in line for the permanent job of Manchester United head coach with recommendation being made by the club’s football leaders to Sir Jim Ratcliffe and the executive committee!

#MUFC
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