On Sunday, Rant Cast regulars Ed & Paul will be live blogging the FA Cup third round tie with Manchester City at Eastlands. It’s the first time we have done this on United Rant. Join in on the comments section below, email or Tweet Paul – @UtdRantCast and Ed – @unitedrant.
It all kicks off at Eastlands Sunday, 8 January 2012, 1pm GMT. We’ll be with you around 30 minutes before the whistle!
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[liveblog]
2 Parks? 1 is too much at the moment. Was it a typo or a joke? Nani has got to play anyway.
———-Lindegaard
Rafael—Jones—Rio—-Evra
Valencia-Carrick-Anderson-Nani
—————-Rooney
———-Welbeck
subs: De Gea, Fryers, Giggs, Pogba, Park, Berba, Chich
4-4-1-1 so weaker in midfield but if City don’t have Barry or the Toures it might be ok. Time we played our strongest hand. But I wouldn’t be surprised to see Park on the left wing, with Nani/Valencia on the right and using Welbeck’s (limited) left sided ability to provide attacking threat in lieu of a proper left winger. Giggs in for Anderson might be more of a ‘Fergie selection’ too.
First time I’ve gone into a United game predicting a defeat since I can remember.
Two lungs Park, obviously!
whats happening with smalling???
Tonsillitis – should be fit for next game.
What a shite team for Manchester United and all there record turnovers injuries or no injuries that squad of players is poor irrespective if we manage to win tomorrow,absolute disgrace .What happened to the United of old smashing the british transfer record every couple of seasons bringing the odd gem .The current younger players can’t be expected to learn there trade with that load of crap.
DeadRevel Park should of been dropped by now especially after his performances against Crystal Palace if he is playing we will lose for sure.Paul Pogba has to start see what the lad is made off.
He has been awful recently but with the amount of injuries I would be surprised if he wasn’t at least on the bench. Thought Pogba wasnt great in his last outing. I’d rather see Morrison – he was our best player by far against Palace and alongside Carrick could be a good contrast in c. midfield.
Does anyone have a spare for our end tomorrow? I head back to Australia next week im despo to see the reds WIN before I go! X
hes been out for ages with that.. im starting to smell bullshit
lol… not a chance of that id say.. more chance of the lotto
On the assumption that Smalling and Evans will not be available – I know that SAF has said they are still injured but you never know.
—————–Lindegaard
—Rafael—– Jones—– Rio—– Evra
——Carrick—-Rooney—- Anderson-
Valencia——————————- Nani
——————-Welbeck
Play Rooney just ahead of Carrick and Anderson so he can break up Cities movement through mdfield and still link up with the wings and Welbeck.
Failing that play Park instead of Anderson and try and man mark Da Silva and hope to run the legs off hiom.
Playing Rooney so deep takes away a lot of his effectiveness. Keeps him out of the final third.
nerves setting in already….. come on
SCHOLES IS BACK.
And he might be playing today!!!!!!
hes on the bench
can we bring back robson too
United line up; Lindegaard, Smalling, Jones, Ferdinand, Evra, Valencia, Carrick, Giggs, Nani, Rooney, Welbeck
Keane signing autographs at the game today apparently… for the City fans.
Cunt. Must be their new hero after that article.
bets that ginger ninja gets a red today?
At work, so will try to follow game, scholes to score the winner, Come on United.
what article?
which cunting thread are we using.
sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/122909
this is gona be a long day….terrible start
The Valencia Rooney Cross-header, classic combo
what a goal rooooooo
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Can’t fuck this up now.
Red for Kompany – two footed but harsh
wasnt a red imo off to fuck anyway
RED CARD – KOMPANY – WHAT HAPPENED!
RED!
2 footed but low dannni wasnt dangerous imo
Fuck me… we better win this now… beaten by ten men would be hard to take.
Got the ball cleanly but refs shit their pants these days.
That is really harsh but agree you guys. Get fucked!
what a save lind..
agree tel, that was harsh, fuck aguero that was close.
what a game!
Rooney looks up for it
Frank Lampard’s ‘two footed challenge’ probably in the ref’s mind there.
three match ban just at the right time
scholes got away with worse ever week for 15 years
I think that’s a legitimate red.
You can not go in with both feet like that… if he catches Nani hi, he breaks his shin… low and he breaks an ankle…
If it happened to a United player, we’d scream harsh, but by todays rulings, that’s a fair call by the ref… in my opinion
Wouldn’t be surprised to see a United player sent off in the second half though… when the ref reflects at half time, he might want to restore balance.
i seen it again there and thought it was a smashing tackle tbh
Yep, that story in the Independent is starting to look like a managerial master stroke by Fergie — he basically publicly challenged Rooney to prove he’s a superstar today.
Phil Jones every touch is dreadful today
The pundits are splitting hairs… both feet were off the ground when he went in… but on the ground at point of contact… bollocks… he jumped in with both feet… dangerous… end of.
“Badges, to god-damned hell with badges! We have no badges. In fact, we don’t need badges. I don’t have to show you any stinking badges, you god-damned cabrón and ching’ tu madre! Come out from that shit-hole of yours. I have to speak to you.”
I agree. You don’t have to be airborne at the point of the tackle to get a red. Any player who jumps like that is likely to get a red.
silva is gonna hurt us.. far to much space and time on ball
Rooney is out to win this game single handed.
WTF rio.. that was a disgraceful ball
Jones having a mare.
Has Nani done his groin?
what a goal wellllbeck
WELBEEEEEEECKKKK!
Great finish.
what a finish
What are we singing?
Clumsy Danny… and no need for it.
fuck im loving this
Bollocks. Referee is trying to even up the game by booking all the United players for nothing. What a cluster fuck.
We’ll be down to ten soon, me thinks.
Awesome…
Hernandez is better than welbeck don’t you know. Welbeck is fancy dribbling and little else.
defo pen come on
Penalty
LOL…
Fuck me 0-3.
can you believe this
Rooney is having a blast out there… loving it…
header was better than the pen!
Kompany will miss four games unless the successfully appeal. Then again, City are probably about to buy De Rossi and another top defender, so what’s the difference.
Should have been 4….
Mancini really lost the gamble there. He should have brought Zabaleta on to replace Komoany, and probably take Nasri off. go 4-4-1, wit hSilva, Aguero, Johnson still had a good chance of getting something from the game. Then again, he’s probably happy with a loss to force Qatar to spend another £50million this window.
United fans doing the poznan apparently lol
been fucking lucky today, but i’ll take it. valencia, rooney and welbeck have been AWESOME
…
yea they are.. taking the piss
City are demoralised and we have them on the ropes. I hope we can really smash them and put old trafford game behind us.
oh, and smalling’s been awesome too.
i didn’t realise nasri was playing till 25 mins in.
Didn’t know he was playing until someone at half time said he should have come off when Kompany was sent off… has he even touched the ball?
Only Aguero for City looking dangerous.
We need another goal near start of 2nd half to knock any rebellion out of them.
I will take another two without conceeding.
Now it will be a kick up the behind of all those who felt that the Evans sending off at OT made no difference.
By the way, am at work, can but refusing to watch as we have not won ANY match I have seen live on TV this season.
Please lads keep everyone on the pitch and get this game won.
Roy keane must be pissed off.
He managed to get a dig at Nani in…
What the fucking nora is going on
Just got in
Because we didn’t bring him back to play alongside Scholesy?
Good point, I think we’d only conceding one goal when Evans was sent off, no?
Yes. Exactly what I said after the game.
City scored one goal against the run of play, we had a player sent off, they scored 5 more goals. Pretty much what has happened here.
ever the optimist…
this would be the perfect game for Scholes to come into tbf
fucking hell
WTF kind of wall was that?
Keepers positioning was shocking for their goal.
Mancini took off Silva? Is he giving up or what?
knew that was in before he hit it….
Yeah bad goal to concede. Wall and keeper poor then… he’s hardly showing everyone he’s first choice is he.
We need another goal…
why is he coming on.. things are fine
The Smalling-Tony V combo on the right is much more effective than Nani-Evra on the left, offensively and defensively. We need new personnel there in a bad way.
Scholes to the rescue.
It would be perfect if he scored one, wouldn’t it?
Return of the Ninja!
Scholes coming on. We were geting a touch sloppy with possession.
what an insult to anderson. surely, we will get rid of the lazy useless shit this summer.
i still find myself cheering for scholes though – legend!
jones is really startiing to annoy me…. lost it after a great start
OLE!
pace and mobility wise its 10 v 10 no need for nani to come off.. i find it very weird. surely pogba could do a similar job
That is a nailed on pen.
that was a penalty
defo penalty
oh FFS
another mystery …
what thev fuck scholes….. disgraceful
FUCK…SAKE!!!
I can see the sense of bringing on a central midfielder if the point is to push Giggs left. City have gone 3-4-2, so it makes sense to put pressure on their wing backs and pin them back, and Nani offers no real width on the left. Giggs is our only proper left winger, so there it is.
This is madness by Fergie!! why bring Scholes on? Anderson has better legs!
If we lose this it will be the worse defeat in the last 20 years!
Our keeper is dogshite!
WE need to score.
i cant believe this… why is nani off..it was nt broke, playing well, why the change
Dear me we are collapsing!
Valencia has been shit.
fucking hell….
fucking tinker tailor scottish shite.
City are well up for this now.
The sad thing is we USED to be like Man City…
We’ve gone back to not being able to pass the ball
i feel sick
We need another very soon…
I’m still shocked just how SHITE we’ve become..in every aspect of our club.
Time to show your quality, Rooney.
Scholes gave the ball away but Aguero was given way too much space in the box, defense to blame.
Finally, a shot on target.
Bricking it, but I would have taken a 3-2 lead yesterday
Fuck sake… quit panicking.
what the fuck was that………..
Fergie has committed suicide here today.
We should be making them work harder
Anderson’s on… FFS
451
We’re sitting
Wtf. Welbeck off.
Who has the 10 men???
The left flank has become as critical an area for us as central midfield. Teams like City are clearly targeting it these days.
Shat ourselves at 3-1 against ten man city. ffs
Fucking SCORE you united CUNTS!!! FFS
shit sub again…. welbeck has been brilliant.. bring on another midfielder out of form. Fergie masterstroke x 2.
Fucking hell Jones, you fanny.
Casual as fuck in the final third
To be fair to Scholes he’s made more passes in this game than the rest of our midfield has over the course of the season
They’ll score next!! then I want BLOOD!!!!!
hopefully he lasts as long as he did for us. 3 minutes
Jones… FFS
wasnt a pen.. shit them there though
Scholes should be no where near this team… but especially not without some proper game time… fuckin hell.
We’re getting battered by 10 men!! like Han’s boyfriend!
The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits…..
We’re hanging on!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Remind me who has a an extra man?
We may hang on to win this… but we completely gave away any bragging rights.
fergies decisions have fucked us… why is scoles and ando on?
Seriously what the fuck is up with Jones????
Fuck me… Jones has been rubbish…
Agreed.
been shite for a while.. great start to season, terrible now
We wouldn’t be keeping the ball like this if it wasn’t for Scholes
Ferdinand FUCK OFF!!!!
They’ll score off this!
holy fuck.. this is insane
Get the fuckin wall right, you numpty…
ooff…
whens the last time we had someone who could hit a freekick like that
REF GET OUT THE FUCKING WAY!!!
FUCK SAKE… what a game…
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeessss holy fuck we dont deserve this.. terrible second half.. fergie to blame with crazy decisions
From a neutral perspective, that was game of the year.
fuckin hell, we don’t deserve that shit
First gear in the second half
We keep the ball better with Scholes
i hope we draw liverpool next round
Thank fuck, Fergie you got out of jail you cunt! That was a fucking shambles of a 2nd half by all concerned!It has highlighted even more (if that’s possible)just how shit we are!
Rio is fucking finished.
Keeper problem will last until De Gea mans up.
Jones is a flapper.
It’s only Jan 8th!
:Homer:
Can you people quit chatting dust. Please. From what I hear he gave the ball away leading to their second goal. As usual our manager hack back to old days. When we should have gone for the jugular he has made changes that asked City to come at us and now they will have bragging rights. We won but am fuming here!!!
From being their biggest game of the season all the time, it has become our biggest game this season.ffs. Epic faffing from us in the 2nd half. credit to them though, 3-0 down in a derby and still they had the discipline and patience to keep their formation.
knocking the blue cunts who were the cup holders at their council house…i reckon we did fucking ok
shame couldn’t score a couple 2nd half, but let’s face it, city are no mugs and i would have taken any win over these cunts
jones is burnt out i guess, needs a breather and heaps of pressure on him to perform every game doesnt help
nani disappointing again but rooney and welbeck looking sharp
we should have had that pen in the 2nd half and that would have been game set and match but the referee was poor both for the sending off and the cards
i think its quite clear that city is by far the best team in england.
Cowardly tactics by the manager nearly cost us the game. Taking off our best players made the team shit themselves at 3-1.
Jones didn’t have a great game but Valencia was particularly shite in the 2nd half.
We won but today confirmed that we still have massive problems beyond the obvious midfield issue. Keeper was at sixes and sevens. Ferdinand was shaky as well.
Fergie not happy!! good.
Bringing Scholes back shows how dire the situation is, but nevertheless, it’s always nice to see him on the pitch.
Now please Fergie, swallow your pride and bring Beckham back!!
good post match i/v by SAF
said it like it is – sloppy mistakes
Fergie really not happy in the post match
Says the players were too sloppy, too careless. Looks like they’ve got a proper bollocking
Laying into the press over the Rooney speculation n all
Scholes gave the ball away for the second goal but he did OK.
It was the psychological impact of going defensive that hurt us more than anything.
Fergie has blamed the players for being careless in the 2nd half but he should look at the decisions he made.
bang on sheesh.. crazy decisions. absolutely no need for scholes to be on the pitch
He made a mistake for the goal, but after that he played pretty well, kept the midfield ticking over in a very high pressure situation.
To be fair, Fergie made mistakes today but he gave a pretty honest interview. Rio and Jones were poor today, Evra almost as bad.
Smalling, Rooney, Carrick and Welbeck were great.
Should have stayed on the front foot at start of half… don’t know why we sit back – it only ends badly.
Jones and Ferdinand absolutely terrible. We moved the ball quickly behind the City back four in the first half. Second half we got back into the habit of playing keep ball in front of a packed defence. We don’t have the play makers to thread a ball through a packed defence. We did when Cleverly was linking with Rooney and Wellbeck but Carrick is not that player.
Also look at Jones on the second goal he leaves Smalling one on one he needs a run on the bench. Terrible defending.
But that said our performance in the first half was superb. Even if City would have kept 11 on the field in the first half we would have still banged a few in because we kept turning their back four and our movement was great.
We need a settled back 4 to cut out the mistakes
The forwards could make it easier for them by passing the ball to red shirts in the final third
They give it away too often, and the opposition break
that ref foy was shite
city given a red and nowt else
we get 4 yellows
We only look top class on the right and up front. On the left, in central midfield, and in the back we look second-rate. Mancini got it badly wrong — if he made the changes he made at half time right after the red card, they probably would have beaten us.
Agreed. Rio was bollocking Evra for being out of position at one point.
Our speed of thought in the final third leaves a lot to be desired at times – we need Clevz!
Liked the live blog!! worth doing IMHO
Honestly would have been happy with a draw before the game, so I’m pretty giddy we won.
Kompany is the shity version of vidic, their defense is as bad as ours without him.
except for in goal, and hart didn’t play and wouldn’t have saved those goals anyhow.
Jones limps in every game, it’s like he has to get slightly injured to be fully warmed up. Either that or the kids tired.
Live blog is great, match started at 745 am here, I was at work and had to sneak away to keep up with you guys. Intelligent United perspective makes all the difference, I was dreading this game and I felt better knowing the bad news would come from fellow despondents.
Instead we won! And then there’s the scholes thing. Does fergie just enjoy fucking with us?
Brian from North Carolina
Liverpool away next round
Speechless
fucking hell
going to have to do this the hard way
scouse fucks away in the 4th round
Does Evra play, that is the question
can suarez play.
Make you laugh all the City fans on the radio. How they would have hammered us with a full side and if thats all we have then they will easily win the league. Well here’s the news… thats football get used to injuries and the ACN and all the other things that make winning the league difficult.
We have been struggling with injuries for most of the season. For the first time they have a few absentees and it’s a “if this” and “if that”. If we would have had fletch, cleverly, vidic etc all back and fit with half a season under their belt then it would have been 6 or 7. But like I said thats football we have a depleted squad not just a slight change to the first 11 and so far we are 3 pts off the top and just knocked City out the cup. First half they couldn’t live with us and were given a lifeline in the second half due to the ref bottling it when we should have had a second penalty. We are in next round City are out. End of.
somebody dont want us to win the cup this year, one set of cunts to the next.
MRM Suarez still suspended for that game
good.
It’s unbelievable how some people here believe that it was harsh red!
Kompany didn’t touch Nani because he jumped out of the way. Again, he got the ball because Nani jumped out of the challenge.
He jumped out of the challenge because there was a high probability of a broken foot with that power in the challenge. Kompany put all his body weight and the heftly leap in that attempt.
The element of footballing skill was lost in this event. There was nothing Nani could do to keep the ball and Kompany would have touched the player first if Nani had stayed on the ground.
An illegal attempt = Foul
A very dangerous foul = Red card.
Sir Ryan Giggs? No no no. Sir Paul Scholes say.
So far, you cock!!!
Fantastic post match interview from SAF!! The best I have seen from him since the day we lost at Chelsea before the Champions League semi second leg against Barcelona. His veins were popping and his voice was ladden with anger.
He also laid into the press too about the Rooney situation and that was sweet. Cor, I like it when he is in this kind of mood. Love it actually.
It was rather sexual
He stuck up for them when they were shit, now he’s laying into them after a brilliant result. It’s really good management
Secretly though he’ll be chuffed to fuck. No matter the circumstances and the details, they beat City in their own backyard and knocked them out of the Cup
I thought you were going to be one of the first to criticise his second half tactics – and I would have agreed with you completely.
He completely bottled it by taking off both Welbeck and Nani and bringing on Scholes and Anderson.
Nearly cost us the match as well.
Nah, if it wasn’t for Scholes’ one dodgy pass, they’d have only scored a single goal from a very well taken free kick.
That’s pure conjecture. On another day they could have had a penalty for Jones’s handball or they could have had eleven men on the pitch all game. There’s no use in speculating.
I can only go off what happened and IMO we took an unnecessary negative safety first approach at 3-1. Instead of having a go at them and killing the game off with Welbeck having a blinder and Nani playing well, we invited City to attack.
Give them credit because they made good tactical changes themselves. They sensed our vulnerability, switched to 3-5-1 and scored a couple of goals.
Ultimately it doesn’t matter whether we would have won 3-1 or 3-2. We nearly got showed up with our negative tactics against a 10 man side. We had a major opportunity to make a statement of intent but we failed to take it. Keeper should hold his hands up for their free kick because his positioning was diabolical.
all the strikers on the pitch were superb
fair play to that aguero, got bollocks
let’s see hernandez score a goal like that
‘something from nothing’
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Manchester-City-Mario-Balotelli-took-a-running-punch-at-arcade-boxing-machine-while-out-of-team-with-ankle-injury-article849872.html
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/4032753/Mario-Balotelli-bets-on-himself-to-win-at-Darts-but-loses.html
I love this guy. He’s funny. Doesn’t care about celebrity or anything. He just does what he wants
Kompany’s appeal has failed.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-city/9005231/Vincent-Kompanys-appeal-against-four-match-ban-for-serious-foul-play-rejected-by-FA.html
4 match ban, it is.
Hehe, cue the martyrdom and persecution
When you see it from this angle it looks like a horror challenge
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-V57EfUdBpYY/Twntcr5mXSI/AAAAAAAACuQ/fa8R5owIAAg/s1600/OF63M.gif
Sid – Nani jumped or its a broken ankle. Why do City fans and pundits keep going on about Kompany ‘getting the ball’? It’s got nothing to do with whether a red is issued. And hasn’t for about five years. Are these people dumb, playing dumb or just mentally challenged?
On a personal level If you send lads off for strong tackles where the ball is won you will end up 7 a side in a lot of games, the tackle is full blooded but I don’t think there is any malice in it and compare it to the tackle Carragher subjected Nani to last year it’s nothing, Nani does not react to the tackle and seems fine with it.
By the interpretation of the rules I again disagree to an extent and thought, if it’s wreckless (Disregard for the Danger of the tackle) it’s a yellow, it’s only a red if excessive force (Far exceeded the necessary force,) it’s a slippy pitch and the lads momentum sends him flying in, I certainly think it’s wreckless but I don’t think it’s excessive force on a slippery surface.
Yes both feet are off the ground but they are not high enough to cause particularly serious damage, the tackle isn’t late and I don’t see enough excessive force for a sending off, a yellow card and to be told to calm down would have been correct I feel.
It’s a borderline red at best and I would have wanted to United to appeal if it was one of our players.
Ronaldo got done for something not much worse enough years ago against City.
Excessive force is open to interpretation, Squigs
Kompany leaves the ground and ‘jumps’ in to win the ball. It desn’t look aggressive, but with the full weight of his body going into the tackle there would have been enough force to break Nani’s leg
So surely that is excessive force
Sheesh,
I did here. Right after the game too.
Anyone trying to defend that tackle in any way, is wrong in my opinion.
The issue is, trying to get the studs first tackle out of the game… no exceptions.
It’s chicken shit football… when a player commits to a fair tackle, he risks his legs in a collision with his opponents… shins, knees and ankles clash and sometimes a player gets hurt… sometimes the tackler himself comes off the worst… but that’s an even match up of limbs… and the tackler, only goes into the tackle with as much confidence, as he’s willing to risk his own legs.
Going in studs first is protecting your own legs at the expense of increased risk towards your opponent…
I don’t know what the stats would be, but I’d bet that the overwhelming majority of serious leg injures from tackles, happen from studs first tackles.
Whether his feet were high or not, wins the ball or not, makes contact or not… he went in studs first… and that kind of tackle needs to be removed from the game… end of!
“Badges, to god-damned hell with badges! We have no badges. In fact, we don’t need badges. I don’t have to show you any stinking badges, you god-damned cabrón and ching’ tu madre! Come out from that shit-hole of yours. I have to speak to you.”